From: andrewh (Andrew Hung) Subject: Re: Kingmaker for PC Here's my impression after a couple of plays of Kingmaker. The game is an overseas development, somewhere in England. It was further developed and playtested by AH's new computer product division. The game is definitely solitaire with you playing against up to 5 other factions. Just like the boardgame, there is a pool of 36 cards which form your initial force. They have apparently guaranteed that you start with at least 1 titled noble and maybe a couple of non-titled nobles. Also in the initial draw are the offices, titles, mercenary (okay, who has the French goobs), and Ships. You start by forming your faction and allocate your cards accordingly. Everything is done using the mouse...very good!! You have the option before game start to allocate after computer players and therefore know their intentions or allocate blindly (I like this best). Each faction then raises their standards and start the game...let slip the dogs of war!! The faction is named after the senior noble. Each computer controlled noble is rated for Aggression, Mercy and Ambition. Aggression = chance of seeking battle Mercy = chance of showing mercy to prisoners Ambition = chance of using Coronation and Parliament to accomplish his goal There's also built-in rivalry between factions!! Their goal is the same as you, grab the sole heir, eliminate all other contenders and crown the sole heir. The game starts with random events at the beginning of each faction's round. Depending on whether you use Advanced Plague (spread along roads and ports but only 25% death) or Advanced Weather (Bad weather delays travel and possible Gale at Sea), the event is resolved with various peasants revolts, Embassy, etc. Then the player moves all his forces and conducts combat. Combat uses basic combat for quick resolution or you can control the miniature battle with allocation of noble to form a battle line (like Advanced Combat) and issue orders to fight it out. Siege is also conducted if you wish but be careful since basic combat siege can be be deadly if the noble killed turns out to be your main noble (ack!!). You can then either execute, release or try to ransom the noble. Parliament can be called by the King and Writs of Attendance played on another faction's noble to start the darn thing. Depending on attendance, chancery is allocated. The Coronation phase follows and if you have either 2 bishops or 1 Archbishop in attendance in a church location, you can crown the senior heir. The Reinforcement phase follows with either additional nobles, mercenaries, ships, titles, offices, writs of attendance or fresh horses (to represent additional moves) to be gained and then allocated later. Movement is all done by mouse and the map is zoomed in to show the area where your nobles are. Nobles can move via stacks or singly. Towns have holding capacity and the road allows continuous movement if unblocked. You must start with a ship to use sea movement. There's fairly extensive on-line help and also you can try to locate enemy nobles and royal heirs. You can also execute heirs if you think a big force is about to pounce you. The AI plays fairly aggressively. They love to pounce on smaller forces if available. I think dead nobles will recycle, but the offices and titles all end up in the Chancery. The game is fairly challenging so far, but then I'm a sucker for KM. The only annoying thing is the security device which uses pictures of various towns in England to check at various times, but not at the beginning. The game is well documented and even a historical booklet is included. I think the programmers must have played this game very extensively to so faithfully reproduce it. Overall, I like it a lot even for the steep price of $65 ($48 on sale). I don't know what AH has planned for conversion to computer format, but Advanced Civilization is next. I hope Conquistador and Source of the Nile can make it on the list but I don't have any clue how the games are selected. The only title released so far is Operation Crusader, 3R, KM and Advanced Civ (where is it??). A couple more titles I would like to see are Britannia, 1830, Kremlin, Circus Maximus, RoR, HoW, Blackbeard. Well, that all for now. If I get a laptop then I'll definitely load this in there. I better sign up for Origin now before I forget. --andrew From: jberry@pafosu1 (James Berry) Subject: Computer Kingmaker: A review The Avalon Hill (AH) computer version of Kingmaker is a faithful adaptation of the original, "War of the Roses" board game. The game may be played by only one human player and is best enjoyed with a VGA monitor and at least an 8-bit sound card. Depending on the amount of computer players you select and your skill and luck, the game will take about an hour to play (YMMV). My favorite part of this game is the voices. The Shakesperean voice in the beginning will make you think you are listening to the Bard, himself. The battle cries will quicken your pulse as you battle "for England and St. George!" The call to bring out your dead will indeed disgust you! Another attractive feature of the game is the graphics. The map is beautifully detailed, and the multi-media clips feature smooth and crisp events. The last of the "good stuff" is the interface. The game handles every phase of the rules, effortlessly. It's easy to move, allocate and arrange your board pieces and faction cards. You can even have secret support! For scrolling, merely point and click either map (local or regional.) Alas, as with most games of skill, the computer's strategic savoir-faire leaves much to be desired. It's biggest strategic weakness is a lack of killer instinct -- if you're losing (a strong possibility with the many bad luck possibilities here) it won't put you or the game away. The game just refuses to coordinate an overall plan. Tactically, it might be better than you are, but as the saying goes, "you can win the battle, but lose the war." The other, major weakpoint rests (and you'll be resting, too) with the time the computer takes for each of its "players'" thinking. I don't know WHAT it's thinking -- certainly not a game plan. The more computer opponents you choose, obviously, the longer you wait. Personally, I cannot stand to have more than three in the game with me. A few other points to consider: This is a violently depicted game. True, this WAS a violent period in time, but do I need to see a person's head chopped off and blood spilling out? Actually, this is the only hideous scene, but it is enough. I, personally, don't care, I'm just letting you know. For some, this might be enough to BUY the game! :-) If you haven't played the board game, this game will be very confusing to you. Phases that are very clear during board play (drawing cards, etc...) will run together in a "what just happened" blink. Also, this game is rather unique in some of its concepts. The instruction manual is adequate, but not extremely helpful. Overall, I'd give this game a 5. As a die-hard gamer, I can't give it any more. It is fun, though, as a "simulation" and to hack a few nobles. Enjoy the graphics and sound. Cut your enemy off at the pass... But any game that titles me "peasant" after I just won the game (and already the title of Duke) needs an attitude adjustment! :-D -- JDB