Nicholas Uloth - 07:54pm Oct 21, 2001 PST (#819 of 822) Question about Battle for china. Naval reaction movement: Can ony move to a Japanese occupied port, when the reacting battlegroup moves to the occupied port does it merge with the units already in the port ? Brian Train - 09:31am Oct 22, 2001 PST (#820 of 822) "He was wont so to speak plain and to the purpose, as an honest man and a soldier." Yes and no. The rule says you may not overstack in the city, but this leads people to think that the units together form a new battle group. In fact, they don't and the anomalous situation of having two BG in the same box is corrected in the Organization Phase of the following turn. I get more questions about this Naval Reaction Movement rule than any other - it was written to make what the Japanese did in Shanghai in 1937 possible in the game, but it's not meant to be a common tactic. Do players actually conduct this operation often? Noel Wright - 01:55pm Oct 25, 2001 PST (#823 of 834) Where is Eddie Campisano? Battle For China question: May at-large BG engage in Naval Reaction, or must they start out in a port city? Brian Train - 02:54pm Oct 25, 2001 PST (#824 of 834) "He was wont so to speak plain and to the purpose, as an honest man and a soldier." No. Read 8.5 carefully: A BG, perform Naval Reaction must be eligible to perform an Amphibious Assault, which in 8.4 says that the BG must start in a port city or the Japan Holding Box. 8.5 also mentions the BG moving from a port city (or Japan) to another Japanese-occupied port city. Note also that Naval Reaction is a form of Counterattack, so the only BG the reacting BG could attack are those that themselves attacked Japanese units in the preceding Combat Phase. Noel Wright - 03:13pm Oct 25, 2001 PST (#825 of 834) Where is Eddie Campisano? Note also that Naval Reaction is a form of Counterattack, so the only BG the reacting BG could attack are those that themselves attacked Japanese units in the preceding Combat Phase. Actually, the rules don't make that distinction. "10.0 In the counterattack phase, any enemy BG in an area that were not attacked in the preceding combat phase may attack friendly BG in the same area." Then, the rule goes on to say that you have to spend 1EP for major offensives, and you can't do AGO. Nicholas Uloth - 12:24am Oct 26, 2001 PST (#826 of 834) so the only BG the reacting BG could attack are those that themselves attacked Japanese units in the preceding Combat Phase Brian this is not stated anywhere I can see. Brian Train - 08:56am Oct 26, 2001 PST (#827 of 834) "He was wont so to speak plain and to the purpose, as an honest man and a soldier." emphasis mine: 10.0 COUNTERATTACK PHASE In the Counterattack Phase, any enemy BG in an Area that were not attacked in the preceding Combat Phase may attack friendly BG in the same Area. They may only attack those BG that themselves conducted attacks in the Combat Phase. Counterattacks do require an EP to be spent on them if they are of sufficient size (see 9.11) and the player wishes them to attack at full CF. The Japanese player may not conduct Anti-Guerrilla Operations in the Counterattack Phase. Nicholas Uloth - 09:29am Oct 26, 2001 PST (#828 of 834) Thanks Brian. That sentance is not in my rule book, so I guess I must have a previous version. Did you send the update to Peter Shultze in Australia ? - as I only got BFC a few months ago. Brian Train - 10:12am Oct 26, 2001 PST (#829 of 834) "He was wont so to speak plain and to the purpose, as an honest man and a soldier." As far as I know there is only one version of the rulebook, and while I don't have a hard copy of the MDG published game in front of me, my reference is the same electronic text file (marked v.1.2, 14 Oct 98) that I sent to Kerry Anderson to make the rulebook. So I can't explain why that particular sentence would be missing from your rulebook.