From: Allan Bell Subject: Fwd: Re: Lords of the Sierra Madre Hi, Lords of the Sierra Madre is a great game. I'm just in the process of learning it and came across some situations that didn't seem to be covered in the manual so naturally I checked with the author (isn't the net wonderful). Rather than have everyone else ask the same questions of him I thought I would share the answers with you. Perhaps Alan can add it to www.grognard.com. btw, I didn't express question 1 very well. I was asking Phil if the units on the police card are additional to the single police+rifle in each police block (and 2 police+2 rifles in cities). I'll pass on his answer when I get it. Our wargaming group plan to play it this Friday, so far I've been restricted to a couple of solitaire games and two games with my 10yr old and 13yr old. Needless to say, they won. :-) Allan ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 02/07 12:14 AM Received: 02/07 10:33 AM From: PHILEKLUND@aol.com To: Allan Bell, abell@apple.com.au FIrst, I am quoting the latest rulesbook, which is 28 pages long and has "v 2.1" on last page, lower left corner. If you have the earlier 24 page book, contact Decsion games to get a free replacement. 1) If you get control of the Police Chief you control all police in, say, Sonora. The card shows a police unit with a rifle. Is that an additional unit you can use to roam around the state? If so, can it leave police blocks? A: No. Per 6.5.2, rifles cannot move or attack independantly, except shipped as baggage. Police will not give up their arms, either. Remember, they are not your units, you only have limited influence over them. (thru bribery). The only exception to Police surrendering their arms is during war, when a commander of higher rank, and same color, can order the police to give their arms to the troops that need them (are out of ammunition). 2) Can I spend money directly from a mine site? This is useful if you have a mine which is not near a railroad. If I didn't want to spend the money how would I ship it back from the mine? Do I just wait until the rebasing segment and the money comes back for free? I understand from the rules that even if I spend it the mine is taxable but spending it will protect it from being night-raided. A: You can't spend money from an isolated site, until after rebasing when it enters your general funds. 3) The rules say that a hacendado who has been unsuccessfully night-raided can bury rifles and gold to protect them against future raids. I would have thought this would also apply to successful night raids too. Given the amount of gold you hold at your hanciendo it is likely that the raiders couldn't carry it all off. It would make sense to bury it before they come back. I guess the alternative is to run off with it to the nearest police block. A: Yes, you are correct. The rule should be either successful or unsuccesful night-raiding. Sorry about that! 4) If a player buys a bandido and no one buys any troops I presume that the bandido could potentially burn everyone's hanciendo to the ground in the 45 tactical rounds available as no one could stop him unless he gets paid off by a bribe. So I presume that once the first bandido is bought EVERYONE will scramble to buy troops to defend themselves. Is this a reasonable assumption? A: Absolutely. 5) A military officer gets glory for capturing a red unit (thereby increasing his leadership) but not for killing him. When attacking with the federales do I have to use all four attacks (federales + rifles + 2 for artillery) or can I keep rolling one by one until the bandido surrenders and stop before he dies. Or is the idea that if I had to use that much force then my leadership is obviously not worth raising. A: You can use limited force, (i.e., not use all the artillery, etc.) but must make all the designated die rolls in the attack, and if he dies, too bad. 6) Units get a +1 bonus in combat if they haven't moved or attacked. Does a night raid count as an attack? even an unsuccessful one? Is taxing an attack? A: The rules, unfortunately, are ambiguous here. (My fault). The intent was for an attack to be offensive combat, which taxing, burning, and raiding are not. Thank you for your comments, which I am applying towards a future rules corrections. If you are interested in any of our other Lords series games, or any of our games, or playtesting future games, I can forward more information. Phil Eklund Sierra Madre Games Co. 3438 N Applewood Drive Tucson, AZ 85712 U.S.A. (520) 324-0523 phileklund@aol.com http://www.io.com/~wasson/smg.html ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 02/07 11:18 PM Received: 03/07 10:06 AM From: PHILEKLUND@aol.com To: Allan Bell, abell@apple.com.au Alan, >>if the units on the card are additional to the police+rifle in each police block and the police+police+rifle+rifle in the cities. ie I was wondering if this was an additional force under the control of the chief of police that he could use to reinforce remote police blocks terrorised by bandidos. A: No, I was just illustrating the sample forces, maybe a bad idea. Thanks again for the input! Phil ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------